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RE: Refer question
He's 40. He obviously was fed some bad info some someone. His rationale was....."then why doesn't the fridge have problems when you go up long steep grades?" I said "I dont know. I just know its supposed to be level!" lol
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poker5150
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10/08/08 01:17pm |
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RE: Refer question
Thats what I thought....thanks
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poker5150
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10/08/08 11:01am |
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Refer question
My house is on a slight incline, so when my trailer is parked out fron it too is parked facing uphill. My neighbor says I can run the refer with no problem as long as I am running from shore power. He said that as long as I am not running of of propane I do not have to worry about being level from front to back....is this true?
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poker5150
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10/08/08 08:16am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
FOUND IT! I had an electrician come over to help me. He did the neutral elimination step you all talked about and identified the problem. It turned out that the problem was the gfci in my trailer's bathroom. Somehow, the ground wire had broken into two pieces and then shifted and was making contact with the hot lead. The electrician fixed this and everthing is good to go!!!!!
Thank you to everyone for all your help. I'm off to the Sierra's tomorrow!
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poker5150
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10/07/08 09:31pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I have an electrician coming over in a few hours. I will let you all know what we find out. Thank you all so much for your input and advice.
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poker5150
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10/07/08 12:53pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I had no problems until now.
What changed? Did you just start using a generator? If so, disconnect everything you added to accommodate the genset it and see what happens.
Ive owned the trailer for a little over a year. I've used the generator from day 1, as well as shore hook-ups.
I would always plug my trailer power cord into my garage via extension cords and adapters with no problems. Now I come home .....plug in as usual.....and you know the rest. So something happened. Maybe vibration or chafing has caused a hot and neutral to make contact somewhere...maybe a mouse did it for me.....I don't know.
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poker5150
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10/07/08 10:45am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
IF you have a power inlet (Marineco connector) on the side of your rig you plug the cord into.. Try plugging the cord in to the GFCI WITHOUT plugging it into the rig.. This tests the cord.
So what you are saying is i should purchase a 30/50 adapter that is 30/female and 50/male and plug straight into my trailer from my garage? If it does not trip my garage gfci then this would tell me my trailers 50-amp cord is at fault?
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poker5150
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10/07/08 10:40am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
My trailer power cord does run directly to the breaker panel. I checked the breaker panel and I have the two main hots from the trailers 50-amp cord going straight from the a/c distribution box into the breaker panel. It does not appear to be spliced in any way.
I also thought that I may have a problem with the trailers power cord itself. But if this were true then wouldn't I have the same problem when I plug into the generator? Why doesn't the 30-amp breaker on the genny itself trip?
I hope to have an electrician over today to help me since I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to electrical stuff. I am learning alot now though! Thank you all for all your help. Keep it coming. I have to get this fixed today. I don't want to cxl my son and I's first fishing trip together.
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poker5150
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10/07/08 10:32am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I have a manual 12-volt kill switch if this is what you are referring to.
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poker5150
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10/07/08 09:14am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
Just so I get this straight. I will disconnect all neutrals from my trailers breaker panel (i'll number them to ensure they go back in the same order) and then plug the a/c into my garage and the garage gfci should not trip. I then unplug the a/c and plug in one neutral at a time, plugging in the a/c between each new neutral connection, until the garage gfci trips. This way I will know which neutral leg has the issue. Is this correct?
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poker5150
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10/07/08 08:22am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I will try disconnecting all neutrals tomorrow and then put them back one at a time.
I am also thinking of plugging into a neighbors house to see if it works there.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 10:23pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I bought another new adapter and plugged my trailers 50 amp cord into the new 50/30 adapter. then i plugged the adapter into a brand new 30 amp extension cord. I plugged the 30 amp extension cord into a brand new 30/15 adapter. i plugged the 30/15 adapter straight into my garage outlet and................POP!
Could it be my house's electrical??? I plug the service cord back into the gen set adapter and everything in the trailer works fine.
I also cheked every outlet in thet railer with a ground fault detector an all outlets are working properly.
I am stumped. The garage gfi pops even when the trailers breakers are turned off. What the heck!!!
The ground from the a/c distribution box is mounted on the frame and looks just fine.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 08:22pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
At the FamCamp here on base we used to run into this problem when plugging a GFCI protected unit into a GFCI outlet. I liked to call it dueling GFCIs. Have you tried plugging into a non GFCI protected outlet in your house?
Yes. Into a 20-amp NON-GFI outlet in the laundry room. as soon as I plugged in, the breaker at the panel popped.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 03:16pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
ive plugged the adpaters into each other and then into my garage via a 12 gauge extension cord (without plugging in the 50 amp cord from the trailer) and the gfi circuit in the garage holds. As soon as I plug in the trailer's 50-amp cord the garage gfi goes POP!
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poker5150
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10/06/08 02:43pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
Geez. There are so many possibilities that could be causing my problem !! LOL
My question is that if I have a short btwn a ground and neutral then why does everything work ok from the genny? Wouldn't everything run through the breaker box whether connected to shore power or the genny and therefore the short would still exist? Im going to buy all new adapters and extension cord and try that. they all checked out fine with the ohm meter but maybe under load there is a problem??? There definitely is a problem though because the last time I tried plugging into my garage the cord plug and wall receptacle arched pretty significantly.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 02:01pm |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
Thanks I'll follow that route and see what I find.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 10:24am |
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RE: Where is my ground??
I am thinking I have a problem with the ground when hooked-up to shore power. Wouldn't the ground for the 50-amp cord be on the frame somewhere? Or am I totally mistaken. I have another thread in the tech section under "Help- electrical problem" that details more expicitly the problem I am having.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 10:12am |
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Where is my ground??
I need to find the ground for my trailer when I plug into shore power. Does anybody know the location that WW grounds the 50-amp service for shore power?
I assume the genny has its own separate ground since the trailer runs fine while plugged into the genny.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 09:38am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
I've already tried other cords and other outlets with the same results.
I am thinking that I must have a significant ground fault.....and that the genny must have a separate ground. What I need to know is where the trailer's 50-amp shore service is grounded. I would assume somewhere along the frame but i can't find it. The bottom of the trailer is sealed so I don not see where the wires run once the enter the trailer.
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poker5150
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10/06/08 09:28am |
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RE: Help-Electrical Question
Update......I turned off the breakers inside the trailer, about 5 of them i think, and then plugged into the gfi outlet.....it popped again. Should I also remove the (4) 30 amp fuses that are mounted by the batteries?
I know my 12 gauge extension cord is good because I just used it to power my pressure washer.
The pigtails are brand new and tested fine with the ohm meter.
I know the ground for the genset must be separate because when i plug the 50 amp cord into the genset receptacle, everything in the trailer works fine.
But why would the gfi in my garage trip if the breakers were turned off? Or does it really matter if they are off if there is a ground fault?
I don't understand electrical stufff that much so forgive me for all the questions.
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poker5150
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10/05/08 09:15pm |
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